Modern Gas Problems
Modern Gas and your Collector Car
MikeS – Winter 2007
A story in Cars & Parts titled Modern Gasoline and your Collector Car, relates to some questions posted on this board. Vapor lock is more frequent, hard starting, higher engine temperatures, new additives attack rubber components causing leaks and fuel economy has suffered. It is recommended that you clean the fuel system, lines, filters, kinks and pinched lines, fuel pump pressure, gaskets and related fuel pump materials be up to date with modern synthetic materials. Modern gasoline will lean out fuel mixture 10 to 14 %. Change jets to richer. Reduce ignition advance a couple of degrees. Change to a colder plug, sometimes two steps. 4 to 6 oz of Marvel Mystery oil to 20 gallons of gas was recommended because of increased internal engine heat.
Note; Use alcohol free gas if possible if available in your area.
Leaded Gas & Fuel Additive
crosley19 8/27/00
There is enough lead built up on the face of the valves
from years of running leaded gas, that it probably will never hurt
your engine, the lead acts as a cushion between the valve and the
head. However, if you grind the valves, you should then install
hardened valve seats. If you do not the valves will surely eat
into the head. I have taken enough engines apart and have seen the
valves recessed into the head 1/8".
Jim_Bollman 8/28/00
I use regular unleaded but I doctor most tank fulls with
lead substitute gas additives. Since I'm ony driving a few hundred
miles a year I don't know if that is enough or not.
crosley19 8/28/00
There isn't a lead substitute on the market that is even
worth a plugged nickel. I went to a seminar on fuel additives put
on by Shell Petroleum. As it states--lead substitute--- there is
no lead in it, first it would be against the law if there was.
Lead was added to fuel in the 30's to keep the valves from
recessing into the cylinder head and losing their adjustment. Once
a valve starts to tap, it has lost its adjustment and is now
slamming too hard against the valve seat. At this point it is
doing damage! So keep your valves adjusted. Engines that have been
running leaded gas all their life have enough lead built up on the
valve face that the couple hundred miles a year we drive these
cars will never hurt them, unless you let your valves get out of
adjustment, and then it will start to hammer the lead off the
valve face. Engines that have been overhauled and have had the
valves and seats ground should be OK for driving 500 or so miles
per year. It will take approx 10,000 miles for the valves to
recess into the head far enough that the valves will leak bad
enough to misfire. If you plan to race your Crosley, or run high
revs like I am going to with #19, then I suggest installing
hardened (stellite) valve seats, and sodium filled valves, then
you have nothing to worry about. I hope I have helped you and not
confused anybody.
crosley19 8/28/00
There is a real lead additive, it is about 10% of what
used to be in the real leaded gas in the 60's, but it is enough to
keep the lead built up on the valves. The only trouble is that it
is made for small aircraft engines, and is very expensive. It is
available at small airports that have repair facilities. IT IS
ILLEGAL TO USE THIS IN ANY AUTOMOBILE ENGINE!!! I am only telling
you this so you don't hear about this from someone else and go buy
some to put in your car, thinking it is OK, It is not!! Most
repair facilities make you fill out a form when you buy this
stuff, and they do forward them to the D.O.T. Besides 10% lead is
not worth the selling price of the additive versus the cost of
installing new valves over a given time period.
cosmicray48236 1/6/02
I have come across two fuel additives which supposedly
are lead substitutes. The first is AlemiteCD-2 made by Stewart
Warner that is added at the rate of 0.5 oz per five gallons of
fuel. The second is Index DSP, made by Index Industries of
Caledonia, Michigan. It is diluted one oz. to 9.3 gallons of fuel.
Both are supposedly replacements of the lead that used to be in
gasoline for internal combustion engines. Is anyone familiar with
either of these and if so do they work?
wally_48329 1/8/02
I have used the cd-2 for years and have had no problems.
I have a 42 ford gpa that has used it for 15 years and no
problems.