Cooling - Fans & Radiators
4 Blade Fan
dave51117 4/25/01
Is there an after-market 4 blade fan that will retrofit
onto my Super Sport engine. I was told once that a Crofton Bug 4
blade would work but I haven't been able to find one. I was hoping
there might be an alternative out there somewhere, or if someone
knows of an available Crofton Bug fan I would be interested as
well.
Jim_Bollman 4/25/01
All the tin engines had 4 bladed fans that can be made to
work on a later engine. The tin had the adjustment slot on the
block. If you think you need a 4 bladed fan to keep your Super
Sports cool you have other problems. Do you have the scoop under
the bumper in place? Do you have the cardboard on either side of
the radiator in place to force the air threw the radiator? If the
above is ok, have you had the water jacket plates off to clean out
the crude from the block? Make sure the deflector plate is on the
inside of the inlet jacket plate to spread the water out. Some
times the impellers in the water pump corrode off. If all the
above is OK have your radiator re-cored not just boiled out. The
Super Sports will run cool if it is setup correctly I have done
it.
rwright24127 Apr 3, 2002
I Know how they well help but what did they come on. I
have been seeing quite a few of them showing up on E-Bay.
for365nc Apr 3, 2002
I don't know what else they might have been used on
(generators, etc.) but can tell you for sure the 4-blade fan was
standard on the Farm-O-Road.
bltlar Apr 3, 2002
My military generator has a 4 bladed fan, but it is a
PUSH fan, not a PULL fan as on road vehicles. The air is pushed
forward not pulled back. It cannot be turned around to pull.
Dozers have a fan that can be reversed for summer & winter
operations. In summer it pushes air into radiator to keep dirt out
of radiator. In winter you pull blades up and turn, to pull air
into radiator, past engine and into cab to warm operator.
Jim_Bollman Apr 3, 2002
They were used on the Tin Block engines, Generator
engines and some industrial engines. Probably some other
applications. You have to watch which way the blades are pitched.
There are pull fans and push fans. The generators had push fans
and that would not be good for car use.
Fan Blade Broke and Electric Alternatives
x779 Aug 31, 2002
Here's what happened THIS week (get the Kleenex): I took
it to a McDonald's cruise-in last Thursday in Racine WI. On the
way home, I threw a fanblade, right up into the expansion tank of
my month-old new heavy-duty radiator core. I stopped off for a
five-gallon water bucket to limp home with.So I'll see if the
underside of the tank can be repaired. Otherwise,I'll let you all
know. (Has that happened to anyone?)
Now there's a lesson here! Don't rev your engine while your
face is under the hood, unless the fanbelt is off! About ten years
ago, there was a local guy killed while revving his Chevrolet
engine, and one fanblade flew off, and ...
And for all you folks with hot-running cars, a common
complaint, get your radiator redone with a heavy-duty core ...
eleven fins per inch,instead of the stock seven fins per inch.
speedoo51 Aug 31, 2002
Almost lost one...I discovered a crack in the blade near
the hub and soldered [I was a kid; it was all I had] it
back together at the hub..lucky it never came apart. Seb.
Jim_Bollman Aug 31, 2002
You were lucky. Back in the 70s Jim Batsford and I
thought we would drive our Crosleys the 450+ miles out to Wauseon.
Jim was driving his 49 wagon with Homelite conversion, I had my 52
SS. About 80 miles from home he lost a blade through the tank and
before he could shut down the shaft bent, from being out of
balance, and the remaining blade went through the core.
I also have several fans that look like they were repaired
x779 Sep 1, 2002
Well, I also have fans that look as though they'd been
repaired. This must be a common problem. The car ran so cool with
the heavy-duty core, even with the new thermostat, that I'm
seriously thinking of prying off the remaining blades and
experimenting with natural cooling. (Yes, I'll watch the temp
gauge.).
rwright24127 Sep 2, 2002
You can do this only if the car is constantly
moving; Maybe. When the car is at idle, the radeator and engine
compartment will not be able to remove the heat from the coolant.
speedoo51 Sep 2, 2002
Small electric temperature controlled fan should be
availible from some small car [that would be 12v] but may
do enough on 6v. Seb.
rwright24127 Sep 3, 2002
This is a start to an idea, to the fan situation. The
heater Motor out of the cars are 6 volts. I think we can adapt
them to a electric radiator cooling fan, the motor might work. I
have not looked at it real close, the fan moter might be to heavy
or to big, but at least it is 6 volts. I think if we all put our
heads together we can do this.
crosley19 Sep 3, 2002
All you have to do is get an electric radiator fan from
the junk yard. Take the armature out of the motor, and remove 1/2
of the windings, Presto you have a six volt! ( too do it right you
should rewind the armature with a heavier wire) I like using a
mercedes unit, cause you can unbolt them and take the armature out
real easy. I have made at least 10 of these for freinds that have
Model A's etc. that overheat in parades. If you have it hooked up
to use it temporarily for parade laps etc. you can get by without
rewinding them with the heavier wire. You can also find a local
electric motor shop that can rewind them also. The sender from the
Mercedes also works with 6 volt, but you must get a 6 volt relay
to wire it up to work automaticaly.
x779 Sep 21, 2002
You'll recall that I threw two fanblades, one flying
upward into the underside of the expansion tank on my new
heavy-duty radiator.
It seems that some CC, CD and VC models may have weak fanblade
mountings.
I removed the fanblades altogether and had the tank patched.
(It had a 3" gash.) On went the now-fanless hub, and the car
operates perfectly without a fan. It seems to be quieter and a bit
more powerful as well, but that could just be wishful
imagination.
Just to repeat: I installed a heavy-duty core, with eleven
fins-per-inch, as opposed to the stock seven fins-per-inch. If
your Crosley overheats, consider recoring your radiator with a
heavy-duty core. If your local radiator shop acts puzzled about
this, go elsewhere.
(Yes, I know ... don't idle too long without a fan, and keep
watching the temp gauge .)
Over Heating
dave51117 Oct 16, 2002
I'm wondering if there is a 6 volt, pusher type, fan
available that is small enough to mount in front of my radiator?
My VC still heats up on hot days and that, of course, limits my
driving to spring and fall.
chuckhk Oct 16, 2002
If your using 2 carters on a stock engine--there is far
to much gas going into the engine.--The end result is the engine
will run HOT--IF the carbs aren't in sync. it will run hotter
yet.The carters have an acc. pump,this makes for even more raw gas
going into the engine--X 2 --Carters don't have outside main jet
adjustments as do the tillotson's --for mild HP motors--the
Tillotson is the carb of choice.I have a pr of tillotsons on my
car going on 3 yrs.--one of these days i'll fine tune
them---meanwhile they just keep working -
Crosleydc Oct 16, 2002
Since you said that it's been sitting for 33 yrs, pull
the side plates off the block and clean the accumulated crud out
of the block.
Especially if it sat all those years without it being
drained/flushed before storage.This was my problem with one that
was a boat motor and had been stored with water in the jackets.
You cannot imagine what it looked like inside!
Also,there is a deflector plate welded to the inside of the
plate (water pump attachment) that corrodes away.It's there to
make the coolant go around all of the cylinders instead of
directly through the center 2,and right out the other side. These
things can cause your overheating when flushing does nothing
Crosleydc Oct 17, 2002
Does your VC still have its radiator air scoop
intact? You need it if it doesn't, unless the front end has been
opened up.